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Friday, May 31st 2024
by TheLostSwedeDiscuss (57 Comments)
Although it has been rumoured for a little while now that AMD might be launching Ryzen 5000XT CPUs, that rumour just got some added fuel to the fire courtesy of @CodeCommando_ on X/Twitter. The leaker provided a somewhat pixelated screenshot of two new AM4 CPUs, namely the Ryzen 9 5900XT and the Ryzen 7 5800XT. This is one less CPU compared to the Ryzen 3000XT series that AMD launched in 2020 and it looks like the benefits on offer are similar as well. Both chips are 105 Watt parts and have a maximum boost speed of 4.8 GHz, but this is where the similarities end. The Ryzen 9 5900XT has a rather odd SKU name, as it has the same max boost clock as the Ryzen 9 5900X, but the same core and cache count as the Ryzen 5950X.
The Ryzen 7 5800XT on the other hand is a pretty straightforward 100 MHz higher clock speed SKU over the Ryzen 7 5800X, which makes one wonder why AMD even bothered. According to VideoCardz, we're looking at a US$359 MSRP for the Ryzen 9 5900XT, with the Ryzen 7 5800XT coming in at US$249, making both a potentially interesting enough upgrade option for someone that is still using an older AM4 CPU. The pricing and CPU details are said to have been revealed at a pre-Computex media briefing, so it's highly likely that the information is correct. Both chips are said to hit retail in July.
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LOL. So a 5950 (non-x) is branded as a 5900XT. As for the price, you can buy a 5950x today for essentially the same $359. What a joke.
One thing's for sure, AMD is good at marketing its e-waste.
AM4Evah!
I told y'all AM4 wasn't going anywhere, anytime soon, with the announcement of AM4 Embedded :laugh:
Yeah, I don't get it... AMD is sabotaging itself by encouraging people to park on AM4.
DenverYeah, I don't get it... AMD is sabotaging itself by encouraging people to park on AM4.
Not necessarily.
Even if not entirely true today, the platform cost for AM5 and DDR5 may seem excessive. Personally, I wouldn't upgrade an AM4 build with anything not X3D-enabled, even for non-gaming
(historically, larger-cache'd CPUs stay useful/relevant for longer)
Not to mention, a simple CPU swap might be something within the skillset of someone w/ a hand-me-down AM4 build.
Something else to consider:
AM4 platform is more/less competing with the secondary market. There's still budget gamers/content creators building China-import X99 systems, due to the cheap server surplus CPUs.
As I'd figured would happen, AM4 and AM5 are being sold alongside e/o; with AM4 being the 'budget consumer platform' and AM5 being the 'premium enthusiast/professional platform'.
The recent addition of EPYC SKUs to AM5, confirms this. [Much to the dismay of those looking forward to more Threadripper]
DenverYeah, I don't get it... AMD is sabotaging itself by encouraging people to park on AM4.
Wdym, we're parked already. Mb $400+(and $300 for a budget mb is insane, that's $150 less than what I paid for my rog x570 mb) CPU $300+ Memory $250+, nearly a grand in a single go just to buy in with 8 cores and an x670 mobo, make it make sense. I switched to Intel considering how badly to they botched motherboard pricing. My next upgrade is going to be a CPU only, 14900k, so they'll need to roll out something convincing at or around $550 to even get me to look their way.
Imagine if Lisa focused on getting the Radeon platform moving instead of kicking the dead body of AM4 for a couple more bucks.
HisDivineOrderImagine if Lisa focused on getting the Radeon platform moving instead of kicking the dead body of AM4 for a couple more bucks.
Hardly a dead body.
www.amd.com/en/products/embedded/ryzen/ryzen-5000-series.html
Embedded platforms are 5-10+ year support/sales.
Beyond the industrial/embed side, AM4 compares favorably with the used market options.
NtM,
AMD's CPU marketshare is doing great, and there's no reason not to 'stack' that success further.
That's cool and all. But AMD if you want to keep am4 a live
Gives us more 5600X3D and those nice 5900X3D and 5950X3D. That would be better i think at least. The other does not make much sende accept 5900XT because of the higher core count.
TomgangThat's cool and all. But AMD if you want to keep am4 a liveGives us more 5600X3D and those nice 5900X3D and 5950X3D. That would be better i think at least. The other does not make much sende accept 5900XT because of the higher core count.
I wouldn't care that IPC would be 'behind'.
I wouldn't care it'd be an inferno to cool.
I'd go gaga for a 5950X3D. (-and I already "final upgrade'd" to a 5800X3D)
LabRat 891I wouldn't care that IPC would be 'behind'.
I wouldn't care it'd be an inferno to cool.I'd go gaga for a 5950X3D. (-and I already "final upgrade'd" to a 5800X3D)
Since i all ready have 5600X and a 5950X and games as well. 5600X3D and 5950X3D would be the only sensable upgrade for me while on AM4. 5700/5800X3D would not be a good solution for me, do to lag of raw compute power my 5950X have. However 5950X3D would be perfect for my needs. Fast in both work and games.
AMD actually have shown 5950X3D prototype, so they could make one.
www.techpowerup.com/310182/amd-ryzen-9-5950x3d-5900x3d-historical-prototypes-demoed-in-gamers-nexus-video
TomgangSince i all ready have 5600X and a 5950X and games as well. 5600X3D and 5950X3D would be the only sensable upgrade for me while on AM4. 5700/5800X3D would not be a good solution for me, do to lag of raw compute power my 5950X have. However 5950X3D would be perfect for my needs. Fast in both work and games.AMD actually have shown 5950X3D prototype, so they could make one.
www.techpowerup.com/310182/amd-ryzen-9-5950x3d-5900x3d-historical-prototypes-demoed-in-gamers-nexus-video
Eeeyup. I'm well-aware. I'd been hoping AMD'd release the 5900X3D and 5950X3D when they were announcing more AM4 X3D CPUs.
LabRat 891Eeeyup. I'm well-aware. I'd been hoping AMD'd release the 5900X3D and 5950X3D when they were announcing more AM4 X3D CPUs.
Me two, but so far nothing.
However i think i understand why or at least one reason they never came so far. 5800X3D have show that it can compete with zen 4 none 3D model in games and at times actually be a bit faster.
One reason AMD might not have released such cpu could to not canibalize there own zen 4 cpu´s in sales. I mean why would you buy a 7950X if you are on AM4 and could have a 5950X3D that was just as fast in games annd not to far behind in raw workloads.
So i hope with Zen 5 release, amd might release such cpus as Zen 5 shut still be faster than a zen 3 3D in games. but only time will tell.
That's a suicidal movement.
They should lower the prices of the 7000, so they get more people on board with AM5. All of them will then buy the 9000, 11000 or whatever comes next.
The AM4 users are going to put Intel platform into consideration before they upgrade.
AM4++++
My 1st ryzen was a 3600xt which my Mom has now.
xt was special at that time now its leftovers
HisDivineOrderImagine if Lisa focused on getting the Radeon platform moving instead of kicking the dead body of AM4 for a couple more bucks.
As if those two are even comparable and requires the same R&D at this point? I think you know that's wrong lol.. :roll:
Radeon isn't their strong suit, but it doesn't seem like that they can fix it in such short term, otherwise they'd already done it. These chips on the other hand is easy money, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't slow down Radeon development because it doesn't make any sense.
Pay more for extra letters why not AMD.
natr0nMy 1st ryzen was a 3600xt
Mine too.
I should have kept it.
Would I buy an XT now? Maybe.. depends on how hard they push their clocks.
I know my 3600XT mopped the floor with regular 3600s.
Without 3D Cache, what’s the point of these. As the 5800X3D will still out game the 5800XT even with higher clocks
Durvelle27Which 3D Cache, what’s the point of these. As the 5800X3D will still out game the 5800XT even with higher clocks
Good amount of chips didnt make the cut so you have these to offload.
AMD come on, just let it die already, zen 5 looks to be in the horizon and you're more pumped about putting out zen 3 cpus more than zen 4 ones.
DenverAMD is sabotaging itself by encouraging people to park on AM4.
I mean it's still AMD, you'd rather they go the "up into flames of hell" Intel route?
While I am happy AMD is still supporting the socket and the 5900XT could make sense for some people on AM4 who now need more cores for whatever reason..... They should have included Vcache on both the 5800XT is already more expensive than the 5700X3D and will get smoked in games so I don't get it but I am probably not the target market so it is what it is I guess.
DenverYeah, I don't get it... AMD is sabotaging itself by encouraging people to park on AM4.
The 7600 with a B650 entry level board and some 6000 CL36 ram is already pretty cheap if people don't want to upgrade to that they ain't going to AM5 lol. The 7600 is pretty fantastic for gaming at it's price point of 180 ish currently it just about matches a 5800X3D over a large range of games.
Eh, I'd be more excited if they just did a 5950X3D. Give me that and let me truly wrap up AM4.
That said, their yields must be amazing if they're recycling upper end parts and effectively making these half-step CPUs to slot in at the high-end of AM4. At this rate, they should consider pushing the worst-clocking yields down the stack and have some low-end 8-core CPUs on the budget end that clock about as well as the 4-core or 6-core options at similar voltages per core. Or jump over to updating APUs on AM4, updating the 5000G-series to have RDNA instead and slot in a new 5800G. Maybe go wild with a 5800G3D; having 3D cache on the Zen side and RDNA2 on the iGPU side. It'll fill another niche somehow (maybe the growing ITX/SFF side?).
gffermariThat's a suicidal movement.
They should lower the prices of the 7000, so they get more people on board with AM5. All of them will then buy the 9000, 11000 or whatever comes next.
The AM4 users are going to put Intel platform into consideration before they upgrade.
Lower prices will happen naturally when Zen5 is released and Zen4 gets discounted.
As for the 5900XT - the naming makes no sense, they should have just released it as 5950 with no letters attached instead.
